Excess Production Capacity - Grundig Program??

Greetings to my European colleagues,

A question has recently surfaced on one of the Vintage radio forums in the USA -
an individual has stated that he was told "Grundig radio manufacturing had produced for RCA (approximately in the years 1957 and 1958) dial glasses for some of the small consoles that RCA was producing. . . .specifically the RCA model 9-INT-2". The individual has stated that his RCA console has a cracked dial glass, and he was told there may be a "Grundig replacement" for that dial glass. . . . .It sounded most peculiar to me. One other respondent had also stated that he had never heard of such a program.

I tentatively replied that "In all my years of knowing the Grundig products (since 1963), I had never heard or read any technical, marketing, or business articles which related to a production program of that type.

Is it possible that our most respected and esteemed Grundig master engineers or historians can address this question??
Respectfully,
Robert

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Hello Robert,

I want to try to this question an answer to give. In the years 1957/58 the company Grundig was extremely strongly export oriented. To the USA consoles and desktop devices were exported.

The efficiency of production mechanisms, it surely certified for external producers scales would have to make glass for Radios.

In addition there was an address in Longisland (NY). It would be to be made therefore possible been with RCA negotiations locally.

All this within the range of the possible.
But, not possibly a dial glass is to be received for a Grundig radio, from GRUNDIG Service in Germany. After 8 Jeahrs they have no more Parts.
Not at all for a RCA, if it gave ever.

And, i have never seen anny Papers, Drawings or Printmedia with or from RCA , it means i agree with you.

Best regards, Hans

Apendix:
in this moment a friend give me a mail. He means, on these adress maybe you can order a Glass for the RCA. I think they must become a sample or Copy from the glass. Please check this.
http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/

 

now in german:

Ich will versuchen zu dieser Frage eine Antwort zu geben.
In den Jahren 1957/58 war die Firma Grundig extrem stark Export orientiert. Nach USA wurden Konsolen und Tischgeraete exportiert. Die Leistungsfaehigkeit der Produktionseinrichtungen hätten es sicher zugelassen für externe Produzenten Glas Skalen anzufertigen. Ausserdem gab es in Long Island (NY) eine Niederlassung. Es wäre daher möglich gewesen mit RCA Verhandlungen vor Ort zu machen. Das alles im Bereich des Möglichen.
Aber, es ist unmöglich in Deutschland eine Skala für ein Grundig Radio von GRUNDIG direkt zu bekommen. Ueberhaupt nicht für ein RCA, wenn es das je gab.

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Good afternoon Hans,

I fully understand, because I was taking international marketing classes in the early 1970s, and my professor Dr Spiers is telling me that if a VERY large manufacturer undertook to produce for another (even if his competition), there would be no public promotion of this operation whatsoever. And, in essence, the parts were to be considered RCA parts - not from Grundig!!

I believe the term used was "special marketing". . .like the Heinz Catsup or French Mustard producers, ,if they wish to do so, may sell some of their excess production capacity to a smaller company for a lower price, but there is never to be identified that the quality is as good as Heinz or French mustard, or even that it is produced by them.

And thank you so much for the information from your friend. I shall check into the site in the NL.

Mfg,
Robert

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Hello Robert,

i am glad that i found  understanding. You now, i am  german!

Aboud Mustard.

In the fifties GRUNDIG was the buyer of that old nueremberg Radio manufactor
LUMOPHON and in the sixties also from the honourable austrian   Manufactor MINERVA.
GRUNDIG brings for example the 970W with LUMOPHON LR100 and the 1070W as LR200.
That was not an good idea. anybody can see: thats a GRUNDIG for an lower price.

Later on, the same procedure with MINERVA.
Booth was not an succes.

Best regards from Hans

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Good Afternoon Hans,

I believe when I was in Ramstein and Kaiserslautern, we have only the CORRECT mustard for the red or white wursts!!

Recently, a gentleman from South America asked me question about the 5040W radio. I am not 100percent sure if I gave him the correct answer. I will post the question on the 5040W model sheet.

Would be so enjoyable to have some of the wursts with the Kulmbacher Eisbock in your coming Eisbock festival next month. . . . . .

Mfg,
Robert

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Because I wrote a short article in English for Grundig I happened to see this thread and wanted to check what's about the same models built by Grundig for different brands.

Now I was very astonished not to find the models here mentioned: 970W, 1070W or Lumpohon LR100 and LR200 - none of them.

I wonder what was the source of this information and I therefore ask if anybody knows of the existence of such models. If yes, please create a new model and answer here. Thank you.

Somehow I can't understand why these models are not here since we probably list up to 99 % of the German production for the local market Germany. But maybe these were export models and for export models we are not complete by lack of information in Europe. Here we hope for help abroad. Who knows more export models and is willing to bring them in?

By the way the concept was widely used by Philips since many years when Grundig began the same. As such there it was not a bad idea as production cost could be reduced very much or other markets within the same country could be delivered. A good example is Philips, Mediator and Jura in Switzerland.

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Two weeks ago i bought a Lumophon LR 200 on a radioswap.

Indeed it looks very Grundig. The loudspeaker is branded "Grundig"as wel.

Yesterday i contributed/created  this model to RM.org.

Kind regards,

Gino

 

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