mcmichael: A; Super Range Portable four: Batteries

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mcmichael: A; Super Range Portable four: Batteries 
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This set uses three packs:

  • Winner 120 style pack for 60V & 120V HT (USA "B")
  • Winner 9 style GB  (USA "C")
  • 2V Lead Acid Accumulator, presumed to be wet (Gel is later 1930s) and presumed to be between 20AH and 75AH depending on space. The commonest size of the era is the about 35AH, for example the Ever Ready GZ 2V 36AH

 

Winner 120

Making a replica working Winner 120 is easy as dimensions are well known and the photos of old ones can be used to make panels to print. 80 off Alkaline AA at about €2 per 8 pack will give about the same capacity or a bit more than the original "B" cells used (2700mAH vs about 2500mAH for modern Zinc Carbon "B", = IEC R12) and 10 off 8 way AA holders allows the taps easily as well as fitting with plenty of space. This will have 5 to 10 years shelf life in cool conditions.

 

Winner 9

I made up a GB pack using 6 x Alkaline AA cells. But actually there is really no significant current draw, operational life is close to shelf life, so for authenticity I made a 2nd model. I bought 2 x 4.5V flashlight packs (old Ever Ready 1289, IEC 3R12, but actually Panasonic Brand). I popped of the plastic top and carefully pulled out the three cells without shorting. I added a card separator and joined the two sets, with 6 of the 7 sockets made from bent cut coffee tin strip soldered direct to top caps and the 0V socket soldered to side of cell case. 

 

2V Lead Acid Accumulator

I had previously assured people that 2V Lead acid are still available. Well, up to a feeble 4AH is or a massive 200AH to 2000AH (UPS, Solar power systems etc). But not generally at 10AH to to 50AH.

So after testing on bench PSU I decided to use two sets of 3500mAH (3.5AH) NiMH giving 7AH total. This is more like a nominal 2.4V per two cells than 2V. Actually the Lead Acid is a nominal 2.1V. I tried 1N4007 as combiner diodes, but the voltage drop at 550mA load was close to 0.8V. A Pair of Schottky 1N5819 diodes as combiners gives just over 2.1V with full 550mA load and cells that are 1.35V each (near full charged) without a load.

I used an old 996 battery case to start with. Then I made this:

Glass jar with NiMH cells

Compare with Konrad Birkner's GZ 2V 36AH. The jar is glass and cost €2. The top is plastic and card. The handle is a wire coathanger.  A fuse is sited where the valve/filler plug would be on a real one. The  real cell is a bit taller and about 50% wider, but similar depth.  The space left in the battery compartment by the two "Dry Cell" packs is pretty much what the 36AH Accumulator would need.

The 7AH is pathetic about 12 hours . but at least if the Radio is left on only about 1/30th to 1/40th of the HT pack is wasted.  The HT might have lasted close to 400 hours and Accumulator (LT) maybe about 60 hours between charges. (One Tesco DAB radio from 2012 is only 6 hours!). The GB pack has shelf life.  The Power switch only disconnects one wire of the Accumulator (LT).

Later 1930s Accumulators are Celluloid/Plastic case, the early 1920s are certainly glass. A more authentic style and size "pack" could be made from plastic sheet and probably accomodate 8 off "D" size 10AH NiMH for 35AH to 40AH using 4 combiner diodes. Two additional 1N4007 diodes allow charging which has a terminal voltage of close to 4V, But even with real Lead Acid Accumulator you shouldn't charge with radio on, or really without removing the pack. After all you can only charge it at the cycle shop :-) !

Appearance of battery compartment

The GB "Winner 9" should be further over, but the leads have probably got shorter every time the plugs resoldered!

 

Note: If the link of Winner 120 doesn't yet have instructions and plans check again later.

Edit: Photo of Accumulator updated. Good friend Albert gave me a better pair of terminals.

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Which voltage is GB-1, GB-2, HT+1 and HT+2?

Often sets had a diagram in the battery compartment or on the battery cover to show the layout and connections.

I created one and uploaded it. Print roughly 243 x 150 mm (300dpi exactly) and you can use Pritt/UHU stick to paste it on the inside of the battery cover lid.


Preview of layout

It will peel off leaving no residue. Or you can easily create your own and even "age" it if laser print with a mix of old coffee grounds and stewed tea/bags. Rinse page with water first with one drop soap/washing liquid if staining it.

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