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Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014 ![]()
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D Articles: 2334 Schem.: 700 Pict.: 3655 22.Nov.05 11:24 Count of Thanks: 26 |
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Model Admins need to cooperate, as a majority of two votes is required. If an admin has modified a new entry, the uploader shall get a message (admin. remarks) - in case of rejection: reason why - in case of acceptance after modification by admin: "see correction" - in case of correction without voting: "see correction" This appears advisable to maintain motivation of members which are eager to learn. The note may be short and dry, but never harsh or even aggressiv. If severe criticism seems indicated, it should always happen via e-mail or phone (skype, if there) in direct contact with the uploader. A cc mail to another admin may be useful. Very important ! : If an admin disagrees with an other admins change he must not simply cancel it. He should discuss the case to come to an agreement. It is useful to block the complete proposal (and not to forget: notify the uploader by remark "under clarification") and to discuss by e-mail or phone (if language permits). This shall avoid to put admins negotiation in public (and even keep it documented in the model change history).
Change suggestions cannot be modified by admin. Only acceptance or rejection is possible. In case of a rejection the Uploader should be told why (by admin remarks).
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CH Articles: 5692 Schem.: 13756 Pict.: 31072 04.Oct.07 13:45 Count of Thanks: 21 |
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We had quite some complaints last time about unfriendly incidents with administrators. Such incidents are not very common but each should be avoided if possible. We face also language problems and cultural differnces. I will look out for model administrators who understand different mentalities and customs in other but German speaking countries. The aim must be that those can cover the language and that the existing model admins have lesser work and tehrefore can get into better discussions with our members. Each model administrator for other languages must have a pretty good knowledge in English. I once again have to state here that YES, a model must have correct data - but NO: Data has not to be complete. In no case a new model may be deleted only by lack of full data. This article was edited 04.Oct.07 13:53 by Ernst Erb . |
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CH Articles: 5692 Schem.: 13756 Pict.: 31072 27.May.09 20:16 Count of Thanks: 25 |
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I was called in to look into a thread in the ARF lately. There you could see what different opinions one can have for the same thing, but it changed address or was deleted - you find my summary there, not corresponding with this below. 1 Each of these is understandable, and we can learn from both. The topic here is: How can we get top quality and at the same time tell an uploader in a friendly manner that his data has errors, is a duplicate of data that we already have, etc.? You would be astonished how often members have the set right in front of them but still submit data with errors. Sometimes the uploader knows ten times more than the voluntary admin - but how is this poor admin supposed to check if he doubts or is unsure of something unless he asks for proof? And if he does, he risks getting accused of "imposing ridiculous tests" or (and I'm sure this is the most essential issue of this thread) making "snotty comments", etc., and the uploader will write "It felt like a slap on the face when I offered them some information ..." Solutions 2 It is not only the size (78 000 US models, 285 000 US schematics) but the special framework, the seeking for quality, the relational database (Oracle) etc. True: Complexity is not everybody's choice. We are trying hard to create an Encyclopedia, not only a collection catalog (coffee table book), photo album or schematic collection. In other words, we're trying to create a place for those who believe: If I want information about something, I'd like to have a comprehensive source where it's all there in one place. 3 My answer will only be understood by a few because it is a paradox: True love can not be bought; we have to work for it if we want to keep it. We give the non-paying users enough information to be able to identify their set, to know more about the brand, the model line, etc., but we offer more for those who help to build our information base. We must face the fact that the majority will not be happy with this. As some have said: There are enough other sites that have information. As long as I finance the organization we would not need any payment and hurdles - but then we would mostly have users who want to retrieve information but not contribute - and there would be not much information to seek for. But we accept option 1 since it will have no credit points for schematics and large pictures until he/she loads up something. Some additional data on a model or collecting prices will also do! By the way: Forum articles do not count. Strictly speaking, RMorg has never been "a pay site" but some contribution is needed - and a certain spirit. 4 (1) I was able to understand that we need an American model admin, plus more members who can be addressed; (2) I was able to explain why it is not possible for us to be that "simple"; (3) we will be able to provide UACS status information for members who have never uploaded or for members who may be approaching their limit. If you feel like you "have to jump through hoops like circus animals to join this little club", then please don't. I strongly recommend that you first go to the source (RMorg) and read up on it, and then only join if you have a positive feeling/understanding about what the hurdles are for. One should never join an organization half-heartedly, or above all with negative feelings about it. It is also clear that if something goes wrong, some will seem to give up and be upset for life over it -- and others will see it as a challenge to change things. Here you find the statistics for 2012.
This article was edited 19.Jan.13 17:04 by Ernst Erb . |