An Elton Radio.

Hello friends,

I have an Elton Swedish radio of unknown model.

I would like to upload some images and some info ,but I see  I have to be model specific to do that. So I would like to ask you to possibly identify this radio's model number ,so I can uppload the info. The tube line up is the following: 3 x CF1, CL2 and CY1. I checked the Radiomuseum Org Elton pages, but couldn't find any match there. Thanks, Miklos

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Hello Miklos,

since there is very little information about Elton brand radios to be found, I can only submit some thoughts and results from a quick research I did for you.

The swedish Radiomuseet Göteborg has a periodical called "Audionen" and one article of No.2 of this year is about Concentra / HC Augustin, and Elton. You can find the article here (translated by Google).

The author refers to a Philips booklet which contains tube line-ups as replacements. It's called "Vilka rör till min radio?" - literally meaning "Wich tube for my radio?". The article misses the reference of which issue he used as a source, but maybe you can contact him for further information and maybe a copy.

In conclusion, the 330A seems to be of the same season like the 120, 130 and the 230. The reason why I came to search for the 330A is that the tube line-up given here in radiomuseum (3xCF7, CL2, CY1) "corresponds" to the line-up you are giving here.

If the 330A is of the same year as the other models, the use of CF7 in this model is dubious, since this tube was introduced in 1935, which is the reason the model is put to 1935 with a questionmark of uncertainty while the original suggestion was 1934 (which, if the article is considered accurate, would be the correct year). Of course CF1 and CF7 are similar enough, and while I do not necessarily want to cast doubt on the data on the 330A, this might be a track for further examination.

On the other hand, that would only confirm a tube line-up, not the actual model since we cannot say for sure that this line-up has only been used in that specific radio.

Kind regards
Mark

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Hello Mark,

Thanks for your thoughts in connection of the Elton. I my self was looking the Radiomuseum org data on the model 330A and found strange to have almost the same tube lineup as my radio with the difference of the CF7 vs CF1. Thanks for the Swedish link, I will check it out and if I come to a concluson about the model number , I will post the pictures I made of the radio. As a side note I bought the unit in the seventies in Helsingborg.

Best regards, Miklos

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Hello Gentlemen

Very nice to see an Elton radio even outside Sweden. They are very seldom seen and most models are actually unknown even to swedish collectors.

The article reffered to in "Audionen" is written by me after some research in contemporary and later publications of different kinds. The Philips booklet mentioned: "Vilka rör till min radio" is in this case number 8, issued in march 1939.

When suggesting the Elton models to RMorg I have used tube line-ups from the booklet mentioned above. There are propably several possibilities of faults in this reference. CF1 or CF7 may just be a printing mistake. Original tubes were propably not from Philips in the Elton radios so perhaps they just suggested the tube they considered to be the best match.

I think, to the best of my knowledge, that it would be resonably safe to assume this to be a model 330A. Suggesting a change in tubes from 3xCF7 to 3xCF1 and a change of production year to 1934 would, from my point of view, be fully appropriate. And of course adding any other data given by the set itself.

It is a very nice radio indeed, and definitely quite rare as well.

Kind regards

Anders "soda" Söderström, Sweden

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Hello Anders,

Thanks for the reply. By reading your interesting article and looking my radio ,I came to the conclusion at the radio either a 330A (as Mark and you) or Typ 34, Excello (ska vara en fyrarörs, trekretsmottagare, med stationsnamnen utsatta på skalan). The radio have the original Philips Miniwatt tubes with each having a paper band with a serial number from Elton on it and glued around the socket portion of the tubes. The unit didn't see much action in it's lifetime and it is close to pristine clean inside. I bought it for aesthetic reasons and never switched it on. It is look like it has a three gang variable capacitor, but I have to take the chassis out of the cabinet to confirm that. I think I will put it up on the forum as a typ 34 for now ,so I can upload the pictures. I find it interesting at something like this knowledge , so close in time can be lost. It is only 80 years passed since 1930 and I bet if you would go around in Helsingborg asking people about Elton they wouln't be able to remember anything about it. Sort of sad.

Best regards, Miklos

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Dear Miklos, hello Anders,

the CF1 had been phased out in 1935 already and the CF7 is, depending on the operation parameters, a fitting replacement. This explains the CF7 in the replacement list, and allows us to date the radio to 1934 or earlier.

I agree with Anders in finding it reasonable to assume this is a model 330A. The 34 Excello is missing in our Elton listing here, so my suggestion would be to create an entry for it (assuming we have at least one printed reference to that model).

Unless there is more information that I'm not aware of, my opninion is that you should add your images and further data to the 330A.

Regards
Mark

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Hello gentlemen

Reading and understanding the article in Google translation is´nt easy. The record of the two mentioned models that I didn´t suggest for RMorg are taken from a magazine published by the company Elton/Concentra itself. They marketed a monthly (from 1933 quarterly) radio magazine called "Radio Teknisk Revy" (Radio Technical Revue). In number 3 of october 1933 the sales program for Elton 1933-34 is listed.

The models 130 "Universal" and 34 "Excello" are mentioned as not yet manufactured but planned to be in market later in 1933. A slight possibility that they were manufactured although there are no records of them in the Philips publication "Vilka rör till min radio?" would have been if other tubes than those compatible with Philips production could have been used.

Since You mr Cseke write that the original Elton paper bands on the Philips tubes are still present, that proves that Elton used Philips tubes in their recievers. Knowing this It seems rather certain that those models mentioned above never were taken into production.

This makes me certain that Your radio must be a type 330 A.

Besides the type 34, Excello is not mentioned to be an universalreciever (allströmsmottagare), but that is certainly the case with type 330 A and with Your radio.

To my knowledge there are no known example of the type Elton 330 A among Swedish collectors so Your contribution will certainly be highly appreciated.

Thanks also to You mr Hippenstiel for sorting out the reason for mismatch between the Philips publication and the actual tubes used in production.

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Hello and thank you both you gentlemen,

I will load the pictures up to the 330A page. I spent some time in Sweden so I can read the original text. Would be nice to have a picture of the Elton 330A to be absolutely certain about the model number designation. Reading the swedish article is mensioned station names on the dial, which this radio has. The two Elton pictures on the database doesn't have this feature. Ergo according to you the 330A model have to have a station dial. Anders you are right to assume at the radio is from 1934. Looking the pictures of the open radio there are two big power resistors, so it's most likely an universal receiver.

Best regards, Miklos

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Here's the Type sticker from the back of the radio, or whatever is left of it:

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