Identify Arvin Set 518 Chassis

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? Identify Arvin Set 518 Chassis 
05.Apr.10 09:23
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Bob Isaac (USA)
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Does anyone recognize this Arvin radio? It has a 518 chassis, and I think that it might be a 518DW. The knobs are not correct (Allied?)

Thank you,

Bob

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06.Apr.10 07:23
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Bob Isaac (USA)
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I found a picture while searching the Internet confirming that this model is indeed the 518DW.

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Arvin 518DW 
06.Apr.10 13:37
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Bernhard Nagel (D)
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Hi Bob,

your identified radio Arvin 518DW is already listed here in RMorg. You can upload your pictures right to the model page by using the tab "Uploads and questions" (mouseover) and then clicking "Picture upload". Max. allowed dimensions are 933 x 1400 pixel, the file size should not have more then 180 kB.

By choosing the source "Picture from your own collection" (if you own this model) in the upload dialog box, it will also appear at your own collector page at RMorg.

Regards,
Bernhard

 

Update: Please note post #4 for the correct model!

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Arvin 568-A Phantom blonde  
06.Apr.10 14:30
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Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014 (D)
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Hi Bob 
06.Apr.10 18:27
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Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014 (D)
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Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014

Welcome in the club!

Congratulations, nice radio!

In post 2 You say that You had found a picture of Your model in the web pretending to be a 518-DW.
That might be another example how unreliable such sources sometimes are.
Can You tell where thas was?

Regards,

Kobi

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Not so sure 
06.Apr.10 18:31
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Bob Isaac (USA)
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Since the 518 chassis was featured in at least six (if not more) different Arvin cabinets, what leads you to the assertion this set is the 568-A Phantom blonde? The schematics for the various radios with the 518 chassis appear to be the same (at least the two I looked over).  I found this set at another online museum listed as the 518DW Phantom Pal.  So, now I am confused...

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I am sure ! 
06.Apr.10 19:15
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Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014 (D)
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how about consulting some literature?

Did You look at Machine Age ? Or at Bunis/Slusser? We list them as reference in our model pages.

That the schematics are the same if the same chassis is employed is evident.

The 518-DW Phantom Pal (and other 518's) has not the upper wrap-over vertical grille bars. They are typical for the 568's. The 518's have an upper edge.

Please let know the online museum where You found the erroneous designation. You can send me a mail if You dont want to go public.

Regards,
Kobi

 

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OK I'm Convinced 
06.Apr.10 22:45
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Bob Isaac (USA)
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Hello and thank you Kobi,

 No, I had forgotten about Machine Age and the Bunis guides as mine have been in storage in the States since 2003.  Thank you for refreshing my memory.  I found this set listed as a "518 (1937) at Radio Attic Archives  and listed as a "518DW" at another site that I did not bookmark and am having difficulty finding again.  If I do, I will send you the information.

Thank you again for setting me straight.  The finish on this set is in OK condition, but what is remarkable to me is that the vertical bars are in such good condition.  Most ever other radio I've purchased that had similar bars were damaged in some way.  Someone has recapped the radio and I will go over it thoroughly in the coming weeks.  I did order some replacement grille cloth because the original is shot and I am looking for the correct knobs.  Other than that, it will remain original.  Not too bad considering how little I paid for it.  And I’ve always has a soft spot for Arvins.

Thank you again for taking the time,

Regards,

 

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Arvin Blonde 
20.May.11 14:28
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Bob Timms (USA)
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The Radio in question here is NOT the Arvin Blonde, it is the Arvin Belle.

The Blonde used the same chassis , but the sides and front were painted IVORY. Just the 2 colums were Walnut.

I have an ad Featuring the Blonde Model Radio  with Movie actress Dorothea Kent

Be happy to e-mail to anyone requesting it.

EDIT I just found another ad for the BLONDE and in that ad with Actress Nan Gray, it states the radio is IVORY and Walnut. Source is the same Saturday Evening Post 1937.

So I too stand corrected.

 

All this series was from the 1938 Model year Arvin Phantom

 

The Chassis is Model 518 Used also in the Arvin Phantom Tombstone Radio

I have owne and sold most of this series.

See e-bay completed item 260768270029

 I will be selling a BLONDE next week

 

Bob Timms

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Friendlyness and working out solutions or debating 
24.May.11 19:58
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Ernst Erb (CH)
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It is nice to see that in a combined working we can get good solutions.

We check things before accepting. Up to now this is still done by Europeans for US models and we still hope that some US members with good knowledge could step in for this process. I'm even prepared to point out and pay books that would be necessary for such a job. On the other hand should it be somebody who has not a 100% job plus family because even with the help of others this is quite challenging. Konrad knows best and we have to be most thankful for his work.

By the way: We are now more than 8000 members - and less than 4000 are German speaking ... but the German speaking still do the most work by far! I hope that the latter can change one day. How can we change this?

Dear Bob Isaac
Can you please redo the two pictures on your model page for 568-A Phantom Belle Ch= 518 ?
You prepared a picture of 933 x 795 picture and this size is fine (the best one can do - including the cut near the set). But most of this is blank! How do you do that? Maybe you need some advise? You can see by a right click on the small pictures ... Then I would suggest that you don't only show something from the top but also from one side. Never do the main picture frontal. It is good to see "the body" as you see on ads from the radio industry. A different matter are naturally the rear, chassis, scale, plate etc.

Is it possible to get a good picture from the scale and plate (don't use a flash light)?

Dear Bob Timms
You provided us with this very interesting information:

In regards to the Arvin Radios with the chassis 518 it seems there is a lot of contradictory advertisements by the Parent Company Noblitt-Sparks.

The Radio I referred to here as the "BLONDE" has been seen in another ad and referred to as the "ACE"

These 2 ads are from the same source The Saturday Evening Post for 1937.The ONLY difference I can see is the color of the base moulding on the models.
I will be happy to scan both ads and provide them to you.

It seems the American Companies were naming the Radios as to what produced more sales. The Motion Picture industry was a great way to have the general public see your Radio's and increase sales for any given model.

I know that you have not much time - but you  are invited to load up those original ads - when time permits. I think such primary information is the best we can show. With this we can help all collectors! Also your knowledge about Ozarka etc. would be most welcome - or your corrections or addings in model pages - each member can do that. It will be checked by two admins. But just take your time ;-)

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Updated Photos 
31.May.11 00:57
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Bob Isaac (USA)
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Hello Ernst,

 We are on vacation now, but I'll re-add the photos for this radio when we get home in a couple of weeks.

I don't know what I did wrong, but I'll make sure the photos are of the proper dimensions before I upload them again.

Kind Regards,

Bob Isaac

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