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Uday Kalburgi
Uday Kalburgi
 
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06.Jul.18 05:07

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Hello, 

Greetings from Bangalore, India.

Recently I got a PYE Radiogram from a friend. The cabinet is huge and heavy with Garrad Gramophone and PYE radio. The unit is in very bad shape. Needs lot of restoration.

Unfortunately there are no lables, stickers or manufacturer marks. The Radio is from PYE as it's dial glass says "PYE CAMBRIDGE" and has 11 bands. The Radio is in bad condition, although it is working. But I want to restore it to it's original condition. Some one has added a Transistor FM radio and has removed the PYE's BLUE Metal Label, which would give it's Model number. 

I request help to ID the radio and Schematic if available. I am yet to take down the Radio, but some advise is always welcome. 

Kind Regards

Uday K

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Stan Roberts
 
 
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06.Jul.18 06:00

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Hello Uday.

One of the first steps in identifying your radiogram is to ascertain the approximate date of its introduction. The turntable, which looks to be of the Garrard RC 80 family of autochangers, gives a clue as it was introduced in 1950, so this gives you a starting date. That family of record changers was produced well into the mid-1950's, and the valve/tube line up of predominantly octal with a couple of miniature types suggests a similar timeframe of early to mid-1950's.

As other members have frequently noted in this forum, the station identifiers on the dial can also give you an indication of the approximate date of the product, as well as any manufacturing date dentifiers on electrolytic capacitors. I also wonder whether the control knobs are the original ones because the knobs in the photographs appear to have spun aluminium inserts, which point to a design style of the latter half of the mid-1950's to early 1960's.

I hope these comments may provide at least a starting point to your search in identifying your item.

Kind regards,

Stan Roberts

 

Uday Kalburgi
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06.Jul.18 13:23

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Dear Sir,

Thank you so much for your views, It will definitely help me to ID the set, This Sunday I am going to dismantle the  turn table, Radio and see what it's hiding ! and post the snaps for more advise.

Kind Regards

Uday K

 

 

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06.Jul.18 18:25

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See this Canadian version Pye 39

also the Irish 39 JH/E Radiogram

I suspect your chassis has the RF preamp but not the extra driver and output for push pull. Likely a SW band instead of LW. Export model Pye sets are generally only documentented when sold also in UK market.

I have this one, which is the same chassis & scale as the radiogram. The UK versions have no magic eye and a different front panel. See also this UK version

So if yours has no push/pull it's similar to the Canadian one, with Philips/Mullard valves instead of the US style ones. You can see the scale and control layout is similar. The Irish 39 JH/E Radiogram is push pull. It's a very early model to have 33, 45 & 78, yours may be similar turntable

Uday Kalburgi
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08.Jul.18 09:09

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Thank you Sir,

Very much keen to dismatle and explore the set, unfortunately travelling. Will do tomorrow and will poste few pictures and seek advise.

Thank you so much for guiding me, 

Kind Regrds

Uday K

 

  
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