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For model TR130, Bush Radio; London
 
Country:  Great Britain (UK)
Manufacturer / Brand:  Bush Radio; London
Year: 1965 Category: Broadcast Receiver - or past WW2 Tuner
Semiconductors (the count is only for transistors) 7: AF117 AF117 AF117 OC71 OC81D OC81 OC81 OA90
Main principle Superheterodyne (common); ZF/IF 470 kHz
Tuned circuits 7 AM circuit(s)
Wave bands Broadcast (MW) and Long Wave.
Details
Power type and voltage Dry Batteries / 9 Volt
Loudspeaker Permanent Magnet Dynamic (PDyn) Loudspeaker (moving coil) - elliptical
Power out 1 W (unknown quality)
from Radiomuseum.org Model: TR130 - Bush Radio; London
Material Plastics (no bakelite or catalin)
Shape Portable set > 8 inch (also usable without mains)
Dimensions (WHD) 235 x 160 x 73 mm / 9.3 x 6.3 x 2.9 inch
Notes Early models had Radio Luxembourg 208 metres MW pre-set. Sets from mid 1966 onwards had Bandspread 192-208 metres MW.
Net weight (2.2 lb = 1 kg) 2.1 kg / 4 lb 10 oz (4.626 lb)
Price in first year of sale 16.00 GBP

Model page created by Egon Penker. See "Data change" for further contributors.



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Bush Radio; London: TR130
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bush: TR130; Dreaded AF117 transistors.
Michael Watterson
16.Mar.12
  1

This set had a wire off and Howard Craven kindly emailled me a photo of the location. But it was still dead. The RF/IF section HT rail was only about 4.5V with an 8.4V battery pack. Should be about 7.2V with a fresh battery.

Sticking an audio Tone on the final IF out (the diode is inside the can) gave a tone on the loudspeaker controlled by volume. The Diode tested OK.

I examined the IF to see if it would work with PNP Silicon without Modification. I have BC557 and 2N3906 (not hugely different) general purpose small signal.

 

I also looked at gain curves for the BC557. They are fairly flat from 0.1mA to 7ma and then drop. No doubt at some lower current the gain drops again.

 

TR3 is biased by R10 & R12 but has an emitter resistor. I concluded the Silicon part vs Germanium would be between 0.2mA and 0.7mA collector current depending on gain. So no change of resistors needed.

In practice it's power stages and particularly Totem pole Push Pull that are really only very sensitive to bais if you are replacing a low gain Germainium part (Vbe = 0.155V) with a high gain Silicon part (Vbe = 0.63)

The TR2 is trickier as it's AGC. The bais point when there is no signal is potential divider of R7 120K and R11 in series RV2, 18K + 5K = 23K. As the signal level rises the positive voltage from diode reduces the bias (PNP so opposite of Tube AGC) and the Transistor Ic eventually gets low enough that the gain drops. So ironically it's not a higher voltage (0.45V more for Silicon than Germanium) but the initial IC may be too high!  A rough calculation suggests that due to the negative feedback at DC of the 680 Ohms R9 and the higher gain that the Collector current may be 0.2mA to 0.45mA  At least twice the 0.1mA that is still "full gain".

On both IF stages we are not concerned with Load lines or having the collector at roughly 1/2 HT. It's a low level stage loaded by a transformer. So exact DC point isn't important.

Still dead after replacing TR2 and TR3. But IF injection now gives a tone. But not very loud.

Replaced the last AF117 with a BC557 and HT rose more to 5.6V rather than the orginal 4.5V. RF tone can now be injected. But very low output. RF/IF HT rail only 5.6V. C27 and R25 checked. Leakage high on C27 and R25 is nearly 550 Ohms instead of 470. Replaced 100uF with a 220uF the same size and replaced 470 Ohm. HT on RF/IF section now 7V roughly.

I stuck the 100uF cap on my PSU and wound up the voltage to 25V gradually. The current was initially about 20mA and then dropped to zero.

Discharged and checked: Measures 115uF. So I stuck it back in. With 8.3V battery that RF/IF HT rail was the same 7.05V now with new 200uF or the old 100uF "reformed".

Still nearly non-existant output. AC level and DC level vs generator level is fine on the detector output, so LO and IF all working fine. Good loud tone driving base of TR5.  So suspect TR4 OC71 and replace with a BC557. Signal rises a little, but still massive attenuation at the base TR4. Suspect C30 8uF between volume control wiper and series base resistor. It's measuring only a few nF! Replace with 10uF and radio bursts to life. Stick back OC71 and it's just as good.

I confess I bought this set very cheap to use the case, tuning and chassis for a project. But now I have fixed it :-(

Sensitivity is very good on MW and it sounds far better than the Fidelity RAD23 or Sony ICF2001D on RTE1 LW (252kHz).

 

Would you replace faulty Wax paper capacitors with NOS wax paper or with new Plastic or Ceramic dielectric part? Some AF117 are fine, but many grow whiskers and any "treatment" may not last. So is it terrible to put in some new PNP Silicon when no component changes are needed? When there is an emitter resistor, small signal stage and the Silicon part is much higher gain it's unlikely any bias resistor change is needed.

 

Howard Craven
17.Mar.12
  2

Hello Michael,

AF117 transistors are indeed notoriously troublesome. Tin crystals grow though the jelly inside the cans which eventually short out the transistor. One can discharge a capacitor through them or alternatively heating them up with a soldering iron will break up the crystals and the transistor will then work OK for a while. One can even take the transistor apart, clean away the old jelly, refill with the can with fresh silicone grease and reassemble. The same problem affects the AF114, AF115 and AF116 transistors.

I replace these with equivalent AF12* transistors which don't suffer with this problem, the AF127 is the identical spec to the AF117 and an AF125 or AF126 will work fine as well. The AF12* transistors are much smaller though so if authenticity is essential then try and repair first. Don't bother buying new old stock AF117s, they're just as bad as used ones.

One silicon transistor which can be used to replace AF117s usually without having to make any other changes is the BF450, again though they are tiny compared to the AF117s and with short leads are very fiddly to fit.

Regards ........... Howard

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael Watterson
17.Mar.12
  3

I've seen the photos of whiskers on the AF117. So one can't be "Authentic" as AF117s are mostly junk. I suppose an AF127 is slightly more "authentic" than the BC557 in that it's essentially a better package of a similar Germanium transistor. I thought of tying the leads together and "flashing" them to can from 200uF capacitor charged from my 350V leakage tester.

But...

I wasn't really planing on restoring the set, I don't think they are especially rare :)  But you can't see the transistors without taking apart the PCB from Chassis. I suppose it's one of the last classic Bush designs and someone can easily put in AF127 if they want as nothing else is changed.

I shall leave it as it is. The Audio is the orginal transistors and speaker so it likely sounds just as it did new. Actually it sounds better than any modern portable I've seen lately. Maybe 3" speakers just can't sound right even if "3W" and "Stereo" :-)

I guess I'll have to make a case for my other project.

One could make little tins and put AF127 or BFxxx or BCxxx parts inside with a screen lead on the can.

Thanks for the comments and the photo.

 

 

 
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