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For model Mystery Control, Philco, Philadelphia Stg. Batt. Co.; USA
 
Country:  United States of America (USA)
Manufacturer / Brand:  Philco, Philadelphia Stg. Batt. Co.; USA
Year: 1938–1942 perfect model Category: Radio module post 1925 (not a part, not a key)
Valves / Tubes 1: 30
Wave bands Wave Bands given in the notes.
Details Radio Control (+Remote Wire etc)
Power type and voltage Dry Batteries / 3/45 Volt
Loudspeaker - - No sound reproduction output.
Power out
from Radiomuseum.org Model: Mystery Control - Philco, Philadelphia Stg. Batt
Material Wooden case
Shape Tablemodel, Mantel/Midget/Compact up to 14" width, but not a Portable (See power data. Sometimes with handle but for mains only).
Dimensions (WHD) 7.5 x 5.5 x 9 inch / 191 x 140 x 229 mm
Notes

Transmitting on 350-400 kc, this Remote Control for top-of-the-line Philco radios, 1939-1942, like model 39-55 or 39-116. In "Funkschau" 1939, Nr. 17, page 133, a German journal, Mystery Control has been discussed. With writing "Mystery Control" to our SEARCH you will find it.

External source of data Ernst Erb
Literature/Schematics (1) Rider's Perpetual, Volume 9 = 1938 and before (p. Philco 9-61)


All listed radios etc. from Philco, Philadelphia Stg. Batt. Co.; USA
Here you find 3737 models, 2110 with images and 3134 with schematics for wireless sets etc. In French: TSF for Télégraphie sans fil.



 


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Philco, Philadelphia: Mystery Control
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  philco: Characterization of the Philco Mystery Control
Michele Denber
25.Jul.09
 
  1

The Philco Mystery Control (MC) is of interest because it was the world's first wireless remote control for consumer electronics.  While there is some information available today about the electrical operation of the MC, the precise details of its mechanical operation appear to be lost.  Philco considered this device to be a "no user serviceable parts" type of unit and any problems were referred back to the factory.  As far as I know, there is no documentation on precisely how the MC operates.  This is important, because it is difficult to tell if operating problems one may encounter with one of the Philco MC models are due to the MC transmitter or the receiver in the radio.

EXPERIMENT 1 - Controlling the MC receiver

To help resolve this, I devised the following experiment.  Using a Basic Stamp microprocessor, I connected a relay to the MC transmitter to act as an emulator for the MC's mechanical pulsing unit (fig. 1).

                                          Figure 1 - Experimental Setup

The relay used is a Radio Shack 272-232 SPST relay with a 20 ma. 5 V. coil that can be driven directly from an output pin on the Basic Stamp.  The relay is visible at the bottom of the board in figure 2.  (The other devices on the board are unrelated to this experiment).  One relay terminal is connected to the black wire of the MC plug, and when the experiment begins the other relay terminal is connected to both the red and MC yellow wires.  Connecting red and yellow together normally happens when the MC dial is "wound up" (rotated CCW) during operation.  This activates the no. 30 tube heater in the transmitter but does not send any pulses yet.  (Red and yellow remain connected as long as the dial is in motion.  Pulses are sent during the dial's return rotation).  A complete emulation would require a second relay to perform this, but for our purposes a simple clip lead is sufficient.  (Just remember to unclip red from yellow when done).

              Figure 2: the Basic Stamp

Next, I wrote a small program that emulates the pulses that should be generated by the mechanical dial to control the receiver.  This program is given in listing 1 at the end.   The MC transmitter is now entirely under microprocessor control.  The mechnical pulser is out of the loop.

PROCEDURE

The MC performs two main functions:

1. Volume control

2. Station selecting

How this is done is covered in my RM article under the Philco 39-116 model.  Here I wanted to determine the optimal pulse length and pulse width to reliably activate the relays in the receiver and assure accurate station selection without skipping or hanging.  The program contains a variable, Flash, which controls the pulse width.  The pulse gap is simply set as a constant in the main loop.  All values are in milliseconds.  By varying both the pulse width and pulse gap, I was able to determine the optimum values for controlling the receiver.  For each value of each variable tested, I activated the receiver three times on stations 1, 4, and 8.  If the receiver did not respond correctly (switching to the desired station) all three times, then that marked the limit of that variable.

The program also emulates the MC's volume control pulses.  Holding down the fingerstop is emulated by the PAUSE 2000 statement.  This equates to a 2 second volume change.  When running the volume down, one must be careful not to go too long or the radio will shut off when the volume control reaches the end of its travel.   (That's a feature not a bug).

RESULTS

Using the Basic Stamp, I was able to empirically determine that the MC receiver will respond to pulses of length between 30 and 50 msec., with the optimal pulse width in the center of the range, or 40 msec.

The interpulse gap has more leeway.  The receiver will work with a gap between pulses of 40 to 100 msec., with 70 msec. being optimal.

If either of these values is outside the above ranges, the receiver operation will be erratic.  It may select the wrong station, activate the wrong volume function, or fail to respond at all.  There is a 5-10 msec. "gray zone" at each end, where the receiver responds, but incorrectly.  Beyond that, the receiver will not activate at all.  One can imagine that the Philco engineers designed in some fairly strict limits as a means to avoid interference from stray RF pulses.

EXPERIMENT 2 - Reading the MC Pulser

These results were encouraging, as they confirmed to me that my receiver was operating correctly.  This meant that my problems were due to the operation of my MC.  To test this, I wrote a second program (see Listing 2 below) that captures the pulses generated by the MC pulser unit.  The Basic Stamp setup is very simple: Vdd from the board is connected to the black wire of the MC pulser.  The red (or yellow, it doesn't matter) is connected to any Stamp I/O pin via a 220 ohm current limiting resistor and a 10K pulldown resistor.  When the MC generates pulses, the switching action causes the Stamp pin to change its logic state.  The program reads and outputs this.

This program returns a string of 1's and 0's that I simply copied into Matlab to produce the graph in figure 3 (see Listing 3).  With this I was able to test the operation of the pulser and graphically see what it was doing.  For example, this is what my MC does when selecting station 8:

                           Figure 3: Mystery Control selecting station no. 8

From this it is clear that my MC is running too slowly and had one bounced pulse (no.9).  In addition, the pulses are not of consistent length, which is also a problem.  However, using this diagnostic tool helps me accurately see the effects of various repairs such as oiling or mechanical adjustments to the mechanism to bring the unit back into spec.

CONCLUSION

The use of microprocessors and computers provides a simple and effective means of troubleshooting problems that would otherwise be difficult to solve.  This demonstration also provides the basis for a full MC emulator.  By connecting the relay to a small modern low-power UHF AM transmitter, one could replace the entire Mystery Control box.  This could be useful to people who own an MC-enabled receiver but do not have the MC unit itself.  Since the Basic Stamp is easily networked, if could also be remotely controlled from a PC or PDA.

 

LISTING 1 - Mystery Control Emulator

' MysteryController.bsp
' Philco Mystery Control Emulator
' This program generates pulses to control a Philco Mystery Control transmiatter.
' Uses a Radio Shack 272-232 SPST relay with 5 v. 20 ma. coil
'    driven directly from Basic Stamp pin 11.
' Connect one relay terminal to the black wire of the MC.
' Connect the other terminal to the red and yellow wires of the MC.
' Reliable activation range = 30 - 50 msec. pulse width (40 optimal) and
'   40 - 100 msec. pulse spacing (70 optimal)
' Loop execution overhead is negligible, assuming 41 - 83 usec. / instruction
' for the BS2P

' {$STAMP BS2p}
' {$PBASIC 2.5}

#SELECT $STAMP
  #CASE BS2, BS2E, BS2PE
    Scale       CON     500      ' to ms for 2 us per unit
  #CASE BS2SX, BS2P, BS2PX
    Scale       CON     1250     ' to ms for 0.8 us per unit
#ENDSELECT

Flash    CON     40 * Scale      ' pulse length in milliseconds
n        VAR     Nib             ' loop counter
station  VAR     Byte            ' the station number to tune in, 1 to 8
mode     VAR     Nib             ' station select or volume control

   mode = 2                      ' 0 = station sel., 1 = vol. up, 2 = vol. dn.

   IF mode > 0 THEN              ' volume control mode
      FOR n = 1 TO mode
         PULSOUT 11, Flash       ' pulse relay
         PAUSE 70                ' delay (pulse interval) in msec.
      NEXT
      HIGH 11
      PAUSE 2000                 ' hold down the fingerstop to run the motor
      LOW 11
   ELSE                          ' station select mode
      LOW 11                     ' make P11 low (off state)
      station = 7                ' select a station
      FOR n = 1 TO station + 3   ' Dial it!
         PULSOUT 11, Flash       ' pulse the relay
         PAUSE 70                ' delay (pulse interval) in msec.
      NEXT
   ENDIF
END

LISTING 2 - Mystery Control Pulse Reader

' {$STAMP BS2p}
' {$PBASIC 2.5}
' Read the pulses generated by the Philco Mystery Control pulser unit.
' Cicuit: Vdd -> MC red (or ylw)
'         MC black -> 220 ohm res. -> pin 11
'         Vss -> 10K res. -> MC black

mcin   VAR  Word
n      VAR  Word


DEBUG "Start"
FOR n = 1 TO 400    ' 400 samples * 10 ms. = 4000 ms. = 4 seconds of data
   mcin = IN11
   IF mcin = 1 THEN
      DEBUG "1"
   ELSE
      DEBUG "0"
   ENDIF
   PAUSE 10   ' msec.
NEXT
DEBUG "Done"

LISTING 3 - Matlab graphing code

function plotpulse (p)
   clf ;
   np = zeros (1, length (p)) ;
   for i = 1:length (p)            % Convert string to numeric
       if p(i) == '1'
           np(i) = 1 ;
   end
   plot (np) ;
   set (gca, 'YLim', [0 2]) ;
   set (gca, 'YTick', []) ;
   set (get(gca,'XLabel'),'String','msec. * 10') ;
end

Roy Johnson
25.Jul.09
  2

Dear Michele,

That is a very interesting modern approach to looking at older technology!   It could be used in any situation where such equipment is used - Strowger gear for example.

For those not so familiar with the operation of the Mystery, I attach a short note on the operation from Radiomans Guide.

Many thanks and best regards,

Roy

 

Michele Denber
25.Jul.09
  3

Thanks very much for posting that article, Roy, and thanks for the compliments too.  I found some things in there that I hadn't seen elsewhere.  Do you happen to have the rest of it?  It seems to end in mid-sentence on page 8.

Anyway, I have now completely disassembled the Mystery Control mechanism and will report on my findings shortly.

Roy Johnson
26.Jul.09
  4

As per my pm, Michele, herewith the complete article just within the file size limits.

Look forward to your results.

Mystery Maintenance.

Best regards,

Roy

Ernst Erb
16.Jan.10
  5

The last post here caused this nice thread to go into the internal talk.
We have an automatic process which enables the repetition of unanswered questions in the internal board "Talk" to get more members involved for answering.

But at the same time such a nice thread will then be taken away from the public.
This should be avoided by not selecting "A question - awaiting an answer" instead of "Information".
Questions in such articles are sometimes all right - but then should still be selected as "Information".

With this information post after the "question", the problem should be automatically solved.

 
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philco: Mystery Control: Dial Speed
Michele Denber
11.Apr.09
  1

Hello, dear Radio Collectors.  Hopefully, someone else with an aptly named Mystery Control can answer this question: how fast should the dial turn?  If I select the last station hole and crank the dial all the way around to the stop and let go, it takes my unit approximately 3.5 seconds to return to the rest position.  Since the unit sends pulses that activate a stepper relay in a receiver in the radio, I assume that the pulse speed is important.  Does this sound like the correct rotation speed?

Update, 4/16/09:

No one answered my post here so I tried antiqueradios.com  There I learned that the dial speed should probably be a second or so faster.  I won't really know until I get both the Mystery Control and the radio running,  In the meantime,I will mark this post as no longer needing an answer.

Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014
17.Apr.09
  2

Dear Michele,

Sorry, but the question status cannot be removed by editing. Only a following answer with info state can remove the question mark from the thread. 
That will happen herewith...

Kind regards

 
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philco: Mystery Control: Questions
Michele Denber
25.Mar.09
  1

Hello, Dear Radio Collectors.  I just got one of these fascinating devices and have a few questions.  First, my unit came with a 67.5 v. B battery in it.  However, the model page shows it uses a 45 V. battery.  Which is correct?

Second, the dial is slghtly warped in one spot.  It seems to be made of some sort of plastic.  Does anyone have any recommendations on how to flatten it out?  Is that even possible without damaging it?

Third, does anyone have a picture that shows how the batteries were placed inside the unit?  Apparently, there was a separate plug for the batteries which is missing from mine.  Someone just soldered two D cells together for the A battery and then poked the wires into the 4 pin plug.

Fourth, while I'm waiting for a radio that matches this remote control, does anyone have an idea of how to test it to see if it works?

I'm also looking for a schmatic for it.

Thanks!

Michele Denber
31.Mar.09
  2

I feel a bit silly answering my own questions, but since I first posted this I've resolved most of these issues.  The correct battery is actually 45 v.  In fact it is a special "combo" battery with both A and B voltages in one box and a custom 4 pin jack that matches the plug in the unit.  Apparently the previous owner only had a 67 v. battery (or was trying to get greater range).  One of our members makes very nice looking repro batteries for this unit.

I also found a nice Philco 39-116 radio which should be arriving soon.  This is one of the models that the Mystery Control worked with.  And another member very kindly uploaded the schematic.

All I'm left with is figuring out how to unwarp the dial.  I may just leave it alone rather than risk making it worse.

Maitiu Standun
31.Mar.09
  3

hi michele, have you thought of sending a market request for a replacement on forum, you never know , some member might just be parting out a model with the self same dial , in it.its worth a try , regards maitiu.

Michele Denber
01.Apr.09
  4

Well, I'm not too optimistic but I took your advice, Maitu.  We'll see - you never know :-)

 
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