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Thorola No. 4

Thorola No. 4; Winkler-Reichmann Co (ID = 1548458) Speaker-P Thorola No. 4; Winkler-Reichmann Co (ID = 862107) Speaker-P
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Winkler-Reichmann Co: Thorola No. 4 [Speaker-P] ID = 1548458 933x1302
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For model Thorola No. 4, Winkler-Reichmann Co.; Chicago (IL)
 
Country:  United States of America (USA)
Manufacturer / Brand:  Winkler-Reichmann Co.; Chicago (IL)
Year: 1923 ? Category: Loudspeaker, headphone or earphone
Wave bands - without
Details
Power type and voltage No Power needed
Loudspeaker Horn
Power out
from Radiomuseum.org Model: Thorola No. 4 - Winkler-Reichmann Co.; Chicago
Material Metal case
Shape Tablemodel, high profile (upright - NOT Cathedral nor decorative).
Notes The Thorola loudspeaker No. 4 has a gooseneck horn.
Price in first year of sale 25.00 $
External source of data ad QST September 1925, page 83.
Source of data - - Manufacturers Literature
Literature/Schematics (1) Radio Horn Speaker Encyclopedia, Floyd A. Paul, p. 74
Literature/Schematics (2) Radio Broadcast, Jan. 1926, p. 349

Model page created by Ernst Erb. See "Data change" for further contributors.



All listed radios etc. from Winkler-Reichmann Co.; Chicago (IL)
Here you find 26 models, 14 with images and 1 with schematics for wireless sets etc. In French: TSF for Télégraphie sans fil.



 


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Thorola Model 4 Speaker
Al Amato
17.Aug.16
  1

Hello to all. I am a novice trying to restore a Thorola Model 4 horn speaker that goes with my Thorola Model 55 radio and have two questions.

I need to rewind the wire on the coil that sits in the magnets in the base of the speaker. I have checked info in the museum and it seems these types of speakers are 1k, 2k, or even 4k ohms. What should the resistance be on this speaker?

Secondly, if I rewind the coil and the resistance is "low" can I add a resister to bring it up to the correct value? I'm planning on rewiring it with as much #28 wire as I can get on there. Or should I use #32 or #40?

It appeares that someone had taken this apart before because the inside of the base is a mess. The original wire on the coil had come unwound because the spool was broken so there was no way to measure the original resistance. The original wire is extremely fine.

Thanks.

Michael Watterson
18.Aug.16
  2

You need similar thickness to wire to get enough turns as the sensitivity is related to number of turns. A series resistor would only make the DC bias voltage and current correct, it would reduce already poor sensitivity.

There are two options:

1) Use similarly fine enamel copper wire

OR

2) Use a 2000 Ohm moving iron earpiece, Some horn drivers are really just an earphone driver.

Usually 2,000 Ohms is fine, 1000 is a bit low. 4K might be rarer.

A less authentic option is a 2,000 Ohm to 8 Ohm transformer and a suitable size 8 Ohm loudspeaker to drive the horn. You often see transformer and 2 Ohm to 8 Ohm 8" to 10" speaker fitted in place of 2000 Ohm moving iron (reed) paper cone speakers as 1940s to 1950s repairs of 1929 to 1932 radio models.

Note that the voltage ratio = turns ratio for a transformer, but AC impedance is square of turns or voltage ratio, so 250:1 of 2,000 Ohms to 8 ohms is 15:1 ratio, A small 110V to 7.5V transformer might drive an 8 Ohm speaker. The Grid Bias on the output tube is adjust to give perhaps 4mA. One trick to avoid core saturation using a mains transformer for Audio single ended is a cancelling current. This happens automatically with push pull as the DC currents in primary cancel. For single ended you can put 15 x 4 = 60mA in a second secondary winding, or 4mA on the other primary of a 2 x 110 transformer for USA or Europe,
Al Amato
18.Aug.16
  3

Thank you very much Michael. Now I see that the resistance comes from the wire which has some resistance value per unit of length. I put a micrometer on the wire and it measures .006 which is #34. I'll try and carefully rewind it and let you know the outcome.

 
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