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Year: 1939–1945 | Category: Broadcast Receiver - or past WW2 Tuner | ||||
Valves / Tubes | 3: KC1_4pin KC1_4pin KL1_5pin |
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Main principle | TRF with regeneration |
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Tuned circuits | 1 AM circuit(s) |
Wave bands | Broadcast (MW) and Long Wave. |
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Power type and voltage | Storage and/or dry batteries |
Loudspeaker | Magnetic loudspeaker (reed) of high quality (free mooving - only possible past 1931). |
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from Radiomuseum.org | Model: Deutscher Kleinempfänger Batt. DKE-38B DKE-1938B - Eumig, Elektrizitäts und |
Material | Bakelite case |
Shape | Tablemodel without push buttons, Mantel/Midget/Compact up to 14 |
Dimensions (WHD) | 240 x 240 x 120 mm / 9.4 x 9.4 x 4.7 inch |
Notes | Es gibt nur einen Batterie-DKE, aber zweierlei Rückwände: "DKE für Batteriebetrieb" sowohl mit als auch ohne die Jahreszahl 1938. Siehe auch Deutschland. Normalerweise nur unter Gemeinschaftserzeugnisse geführt. |
Source of data | Radiokatalog Band 2, Ernst Erb |
Model page created by Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014. See "Data change" for further contributors.
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Here you find 253 models, 218 with images and 173 with schematics for wireless sets etc. In French: TSF for Télégraphie sans fil.
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eumig: DKE-38B DKE-1938B; Power connections
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Michele Denber
16.Nov.10 |
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I have started working on my DKE38-B. This radio takes three input voltages, +90, +6, and +2. You'd think this should be pretty straightforward. However, looking at the schematic, I am confused. Look at the +6 volt lead (the "+ weiss" line) in the diagram below: This appears to be connected directly to ground! Surely this cannot be. On the actual radio, this white wire has a little tag that says "+6 v". If I connect my power supply according to this diagram, I will short it out. Can anyone explain this apparent paradox? I want to be sure I don't make a critical error with this radio. Thanks!
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Emilio Ciardiello
16.Nov.10 |
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Dear Michele, The +6V seems to be just a grid bias for the KL1 output tube. The connection is correct, since the positive lead to the chassis grants -6V on the grid. No switch is needed here, since the current falls to zero when the filament is not lighted. Regards, Emilio |
Wolfgang Holtmann
16.Nov.10 |
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Hello Michele Emilio provided already the correct answer. If you use other power supplies instead of a storage battery or dry cells for the plate voltage, make sure that the negative lead (- schwarz) is floating against ground! Otherwise you will indeed create a short circuit! |
Michele Denber
16.Nov.10 |
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Thanks to both Emilio and Wolfganga for their kind replies. I can see now how when connected using the two original batteries there would be no problem. However, here is the power supply I intend to use (this is the kit distrbuted by Antique Electronics Supply): The problem is that it has three different grounds, one for each voltage. Here is how I'm thinking of connecting the five wires on the radio - is there any reason why this won't work? Will I damage anything doing it this way?
A+ on the power supply to Akku + (rot) (this is the +2V supply) A- to Akku - (weiss) B+ to +6V (weiss) B- and C- tied together and connected to schwartz C+ to +90V (gelb) Thanks!
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Wolfgang Holtmann
16.Nov.10 |
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Dear Michele The copy of your PS schematic is difficult to read in details, so I made a new drawing merging things together. This should be the best way: |
Michele Denber
16.Nov.10 |
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Thank you very much for your help, Wolfgang. While your diagram makes it completely clear, it appears to create a direct connection between the C+ terminal on the power supply and the A-. Both of these terminals are connected via the two weiss wires (which themselves are connected together).. Won't that create a dead short? And I'm sorry about the scan. I do have a high quality scan that I intend to submit to RM as a new model but I had to reduce the resolution so it wouldn't be too big for a posting. And I didn't want to wait for the whole new model process before figuring out which connections I should make. Hopefully I can get to performing some tests on the radio. The tubes all have filament continuity and the parts all appear to be original. This is my first battery radio and I want to be careful with it. DKE38-B's do not seem to be very common, at least n the US. |
Wolfgang Holtmann
17.Nov.10 |
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Hello Michele You wrote: In the diagram given, we see two white leads, +6V (C+) and - 2V (A-). The latter is connected via the on-off switch to earth. In the second diagram, the two weiß wires are themselves connected together and the on-off switch is wired differently. What is the reality? Anyhow, we need both connections as depicted Kind regards.
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