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AC/HL

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ID = 22587
       
Country:
Great Britain (UK)
Brand:
Tube type:  Triode, vacuum   Universal 
Identical to AC/HL
Similar Tubes
Other class quality (otherwise equal):
  CV2811 ; CV2812
Heater different:
  354V
First year 1930 Tube leaflet collection E.Erb Analysis by original leaflets
First Source (s)
02.Oct.1929 : The Wireless World, London (WW, 79)
Predecessor Tubes AC/G  

Base Europe 5-Pin (O5A, B5)
Filament Vf 4 Volts / If 1 Ampere / Indirect / Parallel, (AC/DC)
Description

Available in metallised and non-metallised versions from Mazda.

Mentioned on Wireless World of 2nd October 1929. It was thus available at least to set manufacturers before the 1930 date cited.

Also sold under the Europa brand which was an imported item from Europe, heavier at 58g.

 
Dimensions (WHD)
incl. pins / tip
42 x 110 x mm / 1.65 x 4.33 x inch
Weight 52 g / 1.83 oz
Tube prices 1 Tube prices (visible for members only)
Literature - - Manufacturers Literature   Catalogue of Mullard Master Valves 1936/37
Taschenbuch zum Röhren-Codex 1948/49   
 
mazda-ac-hl.jpg
AC/HL: KG
Kevin Gregson

 
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AC/HL: own collection
Peter den Boer


Usage in Models 1= 1929? ; 4= 1929 ; 4= 1930? ; 4= 1930 ; 2= 1931? ; 1= 1931 ; 8= 1932 ; 2= 1933 ; 1= 1934? ; 3= 1934 ; 3= 1936? ; 2= 1937 ; 2= 1939 ; 1= 1945

Quantity of Models at Radiomuseum.org with this tube (valve, valves, valvola, valvole, válvula, lampe):38


Forum contributions about this tube
AC/HL
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AC/HL
Peter den Boer
01.Mar.11
  1

I have an early Mazda AC/HL with strange 5 pin base. The two short pins are the filament pins. The three long pins are for the anode, grid and cathode. But which pin is connected to what?

Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014
01.Mar.11
  2

I think it is not a Mazda but a Metropolitan-Vickers (Cosmos) valve. The base shows clearly the logo.

How to find out base connections:

Prereqisite: continuity at the filament pins.
Assumption: it is a triode.

I would start with a capacity measurement from one filament end against the three long pins, one after the other. The one showing the highest value is the cathode. Do not expect much difference: the f-k value may be only 3-4 pF higher than at f-g, 
Valves of similar system size show e.g.8 pF at f-k; 5 pF at f-g; 4 pf at f-a 

Now jumper the other two pins  and connect a milliammeter from these pins (-!) to the cathode (+!).
Supply the heater from a controllable power supply. Start with 4 Volt and read the meter. If the valve is a 4 Volt type, it should develop an electron emission current of ca 0.1 to 0.3 mA. If there is no emission: carefully increase the heater supply. If possible, watch the cathode glow which must not become too bright. Light red to yellow is enough.

Now we have established emission, and the next step is to find out which pin is grid and which one is plate. Just disconnect one pin from the meter:
- if the current disappears, then the grid pin is open (the electrons build a cloud around the grid which blocks electrons from reaching the plate).
- if the current is maintained (maybe reduced), then the open pin is plate.

OK?

Good luck!

Wolfgang Holtmann
01.Mar.11
  3

Dear Peter

Sure you have an old fashion ohmmeter at hand.

After having heated up the tube (two short pins) you only have to search for minimum resistance at the three remaining pins.

The one at the negative lead of the meter indicates the cathode. The positive lead must be connected to the grid. The third pin left is, of course, the anode.

Best regards

Alan Scott Douglas † 16.11.15
01.Mar.11
  4

Judging by the illustrations in Keith Thrower's book on 1926-1946 valves, the anode is the one marked "A" on the base, the next pin clockwise is the cathode, and the third is the grid.  It was after all made to plug into a standard valve socket.

Peter den Boer
03.Mar.11
  5

Yes there is a Metropolitan-Vickers logo on the base. But on top of the bulb is printed Mazda and AC/HL. The AC/HL is a 4 Volt indirect heated triode. The AC/HL base does not fit into a B4/B5 base, but there were adapters available. The pinout is shown below. The anode pin is indicated with an A on the base. Thanks for the info.

Konrad Birkner † 12.08.2014
03.Mar.11
  6

Well, Metrovick activities went together with Mazda in the late 1920's. That is ok, no contradiction.

But the tube does fit in the B4 socket. Only a special (flat) contact adapter must have been provided to supply the indirect heater (short pins)

 .

I think that was another attempt to convert battery radios for wall plug operation.

Regards,
Kobi

Peter den Boer
03.Mar.11
  7

Konrad, Yes it fits in as you has drown. When the anode pin is put into the anode connection, it fits. I tried the two F and the G connection, but that does nor work.

Regards, Peter

 
AC/HL
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