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Year: 1955/1956 | Category: Broadcast Receiver - or past WW2 Tuner | ||||
Valves / Tubes | 7: ECC85 ECH81 EF89 EABC80 EM85 EL84 EZ80 |
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Main principle | Superheterodyne (common); ZF/IF 460/10700 kHz |
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Tuned circuits | 6 AM circuit(s) 11 FM circuit(s) |
Wave bands | Broadcast, Long Wave, Short Wave plus FM or UHF. |
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Power type and voltage | Alternating Current supply (AC) / 110; 127; 155; 220 Volt |
Loudspeaker | Permanent Magnet Dynamic (PDyn) Loudspeaker (moving coil) - elliptical |
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from Radiomuseum.org | Model: Goldy 3133 - Schaub und Schaub-Lorenz |
Material | Wooden case |
Shape | Tablemodel with Push Buttons. |
Dimensions (WHD) | 440 x 280 x 200 mm / 17.3 x 11 x 7.9 inch |
Net weight (2.2 lb = 1 kg) | 6.4 kg / 14 lb 1.6 oz (14.097 lb) |
Price in first year of sale | 249.00 DM |
External source of data | Erb |
Source of data | HdB d.Rdf-& Ferns-GrH 1955/56 |
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schaub: Welchen Lautsprecher für meinen Goldy 3133?
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Markus Amende
05.Mar.18 |
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Hallo Freunde, welchen Ersatz-Lautsprecher würdet Ihr für meinen Schaub-Lorenz Goldy 3133 empfehlen? Ich habe leider den originalen Lautsprecher nicht mehr und kenne dessen Impedanz nicht. Danke! Markus |
Heinz LUCAS
05.Mar.18 |
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Gerne schaue ich für Sie nach einem passenden Lautsprecher. Viele Grüsse Heinz Lucas |
Markus Amende
06.Mar.18 |
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Vielen Dank für die freundliche Beratung! Ich werde einen 4 Ohm Lautsprecher aus meinem Fundus einbauen. |
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schaub: Schaub-Lorenz ; Goldy II P
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Mario Coelho
23.Dec.04 |
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Dear Radio Friends I've one Goldy II P (type 3620). It's similar to 3133, so its schematic had been very useful to fix it. The output transformer was repaired and some caps had been changed. Now it is working. BUT......: It sounds loud (normal) in LW,MW, KW, but very low in UKW. - A better aerial doesn't improve this a bit. - ECC85 is not the problem (It was already checked). - Also I can´t understand why its "Magic eye" tube shows better input signals in UKW than in MW, LW,KW. It might be the opposite....Don't you agree? Do You know this models? Do You help me? Some help would be very welcome. Best regards Mário |
Hans M. Knoll
03.Jan.05 |
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Also I cant understand why its "Magic eye" tube shows better input signals in UKW than in MW, LW,KW. It might be the opposite....Don't you agree? Alright , this is a information, but not good enough to give an valuation. To become this info, make this: My expectation is more the 6 Volts on P1 and on P2, 50% off the Value on P1. This depends from the exact tuning of the set. For instance, you find on P1 8,6 Volts, by fine tuning on station the value on P2 must showed 4,3 Volts. If not, test the four Components marked "x". Condensers should have an Insulating off more then 50 M Ohm, and the "R" 200 Kohm +/- 20%. The capacity is only important from C85 = 400pf. You can bypassed some one! Only in this case, not on insulation, you must not soldered out! If there all O.k. I think the only failure can bee on the switch U2 =AM/FM (marked on small diagram), ore an shorting in this whole Area, to ground. If all this without failure, I don't now more, by using only the diagram, what can bee. Let as wait what you find out. if you have questions to this? ask me before. Greetings from Hans
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Mario Coelho
03.Jan.05 |
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Dear Mr. Hans Knoll Thank you for your reply. Yes I agree you are right. That zone must be the hot zone. I got -24V in (1) and -0,5V in (2). Resistor and caps were right. But... I also found that some wires were changed.They are not as in schematic. I think I have to read the schematic again and compare carefully the wires before I step ahead. Meanwille there is another information: In FM,the maximum signal display in "Magic eye" doesn't correspond to the best tunning up. In the maximum signal display the sound presents much more distortion. Best regards Mário |
Hans M. Knoll
03.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mario, Your text:
I think, the only solution is, use an "Ohmmeter" and check all the wiring around the EABC80.
Show me your results. Hans PS: Have you changed the EABC80? |
Mario Coelho
04.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mr. Hans Knoll |
Hans M. Knoll
05.Jan.05 |
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Hallo Mario, About this here: Meanwille, Thank you for your help and time. But. this results from you, Pin 1 -1,3V shows me, I think, the only solution is, use an "Ohmmeter" and check all the wiring around the EABC80 This simple measurements , can bring out this failure.
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Mario Coelho
05.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mr. Hans Knoll |
Hans M. Knoll
05.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mario, see this: and this here: and this: ![]() L36 is marked, this is not the Coil from Goldy, but standard Forming. Hans |
Mario Coelho
06.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mr. Hans Knoll Thank you for your last post. The measurements you indicated were made. You were right, Results: OPEN CIRCUIT (pins 1 and 3). Now I send you one diagram and one photo of the components connected to IF. That's why I was not able to locate pin 3 of IF. As you can see only the 200kOhms resistor is there. The 400pF capacitor is not.
Mário |
Hans M. Knoll
06.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mario, you wrote: That's why I was not able to locate pin 3 of IF. As you can see only the 200kOhms resistor is there. The 400pF capacitor is not visable. I think or belive, the 400pf is locatet inside of the Filterbox. next: Does it means that L36 IF coil is open? Yes sir! Thats right! I have send to you on post6 a marked diagramm that shows the possibilty of an interrupt. Now i make additional a new picture, that shows this again.
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Mario Coelho
06.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mr. Hans Knoll The coil wires inside of IF were well twisted but the varnish was not enough peeled. Soldering was insufficient. Zero Ohms contact was acheived after pressing a little bit with my fingers. Right in the target !. I hope you accept my respects. Now I have to solder everything. I'll present the results later. 1 HOUR LATER: YES! IT WORKS FINE. PURE SOUND! TUNE INDICATOR IS NOW INDICATING THE RIGHT TUNE. Thank you MR. Hans Knoll for your knowlege and great help. How can I do to show you my thankfulness? Yellow arrows : 1 - twisted wires are in the opposite side of this picture. See them in next picture. ; 2- the causer wire. We can also see here the 400Pf capacitor. Best Regards Mário |
Hans M. Knoll
09.Jan.05 |
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Hallo Mario, you ask me, How can I do to show you my thankfulness? What can you do ? Work hard with all the Members of RM.org and bring everything to an good End like here!
Greadings from Germany Hans M. Knoll |
Júlio Branco
11.Jan.05 |
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Hello Mr. Hans Knoll I am a new member, and as pods to evidence here. I presented some works, are not many, but the time has not given for more. Thus it would desire that all the members made it. For example, I have a radio that it only has the model that is: SUPERSOM, has cabinet in wood the control knobs is in wood uses the valves: 6K7G, 6Q7G, 7SJ8G, 25L6G, 25Z6G, as pods to prove in annex, that if finds in this forum: Pods to help or some member me of the Rmorg, the year and the manufacturer? |
Paul E. Pinyot † 2013
20.Jan.05 |
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Gentlemen, I am very positivley impressed with the quality and detail of this particular discussion. I am new to this forum and found it to be quite informative. I hope to have useful information to contribute some time in the future. Thank you for your contributions, Paul Pinyot. |